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	<title>Comments on: DNA, Race, and Intelligence in The New York Times</title>
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	<description>How will it change your life?</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ashna prasad</title>
		<link>http://www.eyeondna.com/2007/11/11/dna-race-and-intelligence-in-the-new-york-times/#comment-59522</link>
		<dc:creator>ashna prasad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 07:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! There is a lot of hostility here. I am neither white nor black. Anyway, whatever the outcome to the research has been, it is what it is, which is scientifically true. I am sure itâ€™s been tested over and over again before being publicized. Adding to it, I ask why such negativity instead of looking at it in a positive manner? To me, how I look at it is, there is now room for improvement and making our HUMAN RACE overallâ€¦BETTER. Now, those who oppose, you prove it wrong! Simple!!! Otherwise, sheesh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! There is a lot of hostility here. I am neither white nor black. Anyway, whatever the outcome to the research has been, it is what it is, which is scientifically true. I am sure itâ€™s been tested over and over again before being publicized. Adding to it, I ask why such negativity instead of looking at it in a positive manner? To me, how I look at it is, there is now room for improvement and making our HUMAN RACE overallâ€¦BETTER. Now, those who oppose, you prove it wrong! Simple!!! Otherwise, sheesh</p>
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		<title>By: online doctor</title>
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		<dc:creator>online doctor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the more interesting articles about DNA, race, and intelligence.  It never surprises me that there are such differing interpretations of the same data.

I don't think there will ever be enough verified data to determine what the influence of genetics on intelligence and performance is.  Therefore, we will never have a consensus of views on the topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the more interesting articles about DNA, race, and intelligence.  It never surprises me that there are such differing interpretations of the same data.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think there will ever be enough verified data to determine what the influence of genetics on intelligence and performance is.  Therefore, we will never have a consensus of views on the topic.</p>
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		<title>By: DNAWitness Bio-Geographical Ancestry DNA Test</title>
		<link>http://www.eyeondna.com/2007/11/11/dna-race-and-intelligence-in-the-new-york-times/#comment-35192</link>
		<dc:creator>DNAWitness Bio-Geographical Ancestry DNA Test</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 11:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the comments in response to the Wired article, it&#8217;s clear that race (as always) is a hot button subject especially as it relates to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: DC</title>
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		<dc:creator>DC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 17:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite="fsfsdfd "&gt;Economic collapse in Nigeria? Oh, must be because theyâ€™re retarded. East Asia doing fine? Smart orientals again, nothing else."&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, it's just like that. The Great Depression was caused by a nearly worldwide &lt;i&gt;inbreeding depression&lt;/i&gt;. The "baby boom" was caused by some large-scale random coincidence activating black genes for hornyness that are somewhat distributed even in the white population, but usually silent due to white decency-genes; or perhaps, by some virus has copied the black gene for hornyness and it spread quicker, so there's no need to invoke the idea of miscegenation and the genetic coincidence, which perhaps would be insufficient. Somewhat like the gay-germ-theory, or toxoplasmosis. 

This idea of viruses stealing black genes and spreading black behavior outside the black population boundaries may explain all the atrocities, crimes, dumbness and indecency committed by pure white breeds. So, despite certain nose shapes revealing character or absence thereof, there's the noise added by genes spread virally. 

Perhaps the nazi holocaust was the black gene's fault after all, aided with european high-intelligence genes. Then you get combined the genes that determine the individual invention of mass production (probably Henry Ford being the first mutant) and genes for wild, violent and indecent behavior. The sad result were the gas chambers. 

This should warn us of the dangers of miscigenation. Different from short-term viral epidemics, it would have phyletically lasting effects. The first generation hybrids are not as terrible since much of the european intelligence is dilluted with african dumbness, but as genes segregate independently eventually we will face genotypes that unite the qualities of immorality and intelligence that brought us the nazis, or even worse.

And they may well look just like white people, like James Watson does, despite of a large amount of black genes, so we would not have the aid of physiognomy to help us seeing who is good and who is not (just like when there are viruses). A dark future may come if we don't use some &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminator_Technology"&gt;terminator-like techonology&lt;/a&gt; to induce speciation between blacks and whites.

In the other hand, besides not nearly compensating such danger, perhaps anytime a black person is doing something good, it has something to do with a vius that stole white people's good genes. The same thing could be applied to asians, so we don't need to invoke Galton's idea that the asian civilization was founded by white people. Their genes could have travelled through viruses. That's something that lends strong support to Diamond's "guns, &lt;i&gt;germs&lt;/i&gt; and steel" idea, make it suddenly appears much more feasible. After all, there are genes.

So the African Question puts us in a dilemma. 

Perhaps a genetical aid program, with sperm donation from gifted whites to the African continent could eventually bring enough intelligence to the continent so it will prosper by itself. Just imagine how many Bill Gates, Donald Trump and other generically-gifted folks like them could do for Africa with just a daily wack-off or having sex with condoms! Of course their first generation of mixed children wouldn't be as smart and rich as if they had children with white women, but eventually the copies of the genes will eventually meet again in single individuals, adding up intelligence. Eventually, only black skin and maybe other harmless features of african populations would remain. 

The sperm donation of gifted individuals could bring to Africa such a development rate unseen in the whole history, as usually the natural rate of substitution of genes is far more slow than what would be possible with sperm donation (and viral causes for development don't last much - probably dumbness viruses have some intrinsic advantage over intelligence viruses in the same niche, and the effect is similar to that of the decreasing virullency of epidemics with time). It's way much cheaper than any sort of aid with infrastructure and other non-genetic meaningless things like education, and far more effective, longlasting than things like education, as the genes are passed on to the next generation, but the education goes down to zero again.

But that solution has the potential problem I foresaw earlier, multiplied ten-fold by the quality of the genes of theses white-gene donors I imagined. If Germany almost alone did all that harm even after a recession following the First War (a black dumbness virus?), the menace of a whole continent with the genes for such richness and evil is something that the world hasn't yet seen and probably no one is capable of imagining. Such evil and intelligence combined isn't present in anyone's genes, so it's literally beyond the abilities of any present day human being to grasp what could really mean. All that we can know is that it would be the worst menace whit-- humankind ever faced, and possible the one that could lead us all to extinction.

So that isn't going to be the sort of Final Solution we'd want... as we're civilized, we can't really suggest something like the other Final Solution - the one that was brought by the combination of black cruelty and white intelligence genes. We need something more human. The terminator-like technology to induce biological speciation would be the best solution, I think. To kill all black people would be unethical, just like extincting some monkey species. Perhaps if we let them alone in Africa, they would eventually biologically evolve in something like white people, but passing by the natural stages of intelligence development, without the dangerous simultaneity of evil and intelligence that haunts us with nonsegregation and miscegeneation.

...

Yeah, I know, Godwin's law and all that. But I think it was funny anyway. Don't take it too seriously. I think that it's perfectly possible that some people consider other races genetically/inherently inferior in some abilities but at the same time aren't nazioids. Somewhat like "biological egalitarians" (or something that sounds less strawmanesque) often acknowledge that there are real "proximal" differencies, but that these don't imply in ultimate genetic causations or less rights for these people or anything. I don't know in which place most "racial 'realist'" people stand, anyway.

...

I recall one of the silliest "arguments" against the "skin deep" assertion was to show pictures of african albinos, showing that they don't have exactly the same patterns of facial features of european people in general. As if "skin deep" was supposed to be taken so literally that we would not expect even differences that exist, say, between europeans themselves. Other argument I recall was someone in a prototype of sarcasm pointing that is odd that the epicanthic fold is a culturally determined trait.

I know that it is somewhat "ad hominem", but come on, seems like that some people don't spend much time seeing people in the real world and need these sort of picture to know that facial features do differ geographically.

Ironically it's somewhat akin to showing a picture of the bush of Socrates to promote afrocentrism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite="fsfsdfd "><p>Economic collapse in Nigeria? Oh, must be because theyâ€™re retarded. East Asia doing fine? Smart orientals again, nothing else.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s just like that. The Great Depression was caused by a nearly worldwide <i>inbreeding depression</i>. The &#8220;baby boom&#8221; was caused by some large-scale random coincidence activating black genes for hornyness that are somewhat distributed even in the white population, but usually silent due to white decency-genes; or perhaps, by some virus has copied the black gene for hornyness and it spread quicker, so there&#8217;s no need to invoke the idea of miscegenation and the genetic coincidence, which perhaps would be insufficient. Somewhat like the gay-germ-theory, or toxoplasmosis. </p>
<p>This idea of viruses stealing black genes and spreading black behavior outside the black population boundaries may explain all the atrocities, crimes, dumbness and indecency committed by pure white breeds. So, despite certain nose shapes revealing character or absence thereof, there&#8217;s the noise added by genes spread virally. </p>
<p>Perhaps the nazi holocaust was the black gene&#8217;s fault after all, aided with european high-intelligence genes. Then you get combined the genes that determine the individual invention of mass production (probably Henry Ford being the first mutant) and genes for wild, violent and indecent behavior. The sad result were the gas chambers. </p>
<p>This should warn us of the dangers of miscigenation. Different from short-term viral epidemics, it would have phyletically lasting effects. The first generation hybrids are not as terrible since much of the european intelligence is dilluted with african dumbness, but as genes segregate independently eventually we will face genotypes that unite the qualities of immorality and intelligence that brought us the nazis, or even worse.</p>
<p>And they may well look just like white people, like James Watson does, despite of a large amount of black genes, so we would not have the aid of physiognomy to help us seeing who is good and who is not (just like when there are viruses). A dark future may come if we don&#8217;t use some <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminator_Technology">terminator-like techonology</a> to induce speciation between blacks and whites.</p>
<p>In the other hand, besides not nearly compensating such danger, perhaps anytime a black person is doing something good, it has something to do with a vius that stole white people&#8217;s good genes. The same thing could be applied to asians, so we don&#8217;t need to invoke Galton&#8217;s idea that the asian civilization was founded by white people. Their genes could have travelled through viruses. That&#8217;s something that lends strong support to Diamond&#8217;s &#8220;guns, <i>germs</i> and steel&#8221; idea, make it suddenly appears much more feasible. After all, there are genes.</p>
<p>So the African Question puts us in a dilemma. </p>
<p>Perhaps a genetical aid program, with sperm donation from gifted whites to the African continent could eventually bring enough intelligence to the continent so it will prosper by itself. Just imagine how many Bill Gates, Donald Trump and other generically-gifted folks like them could do for Africa with just a daily wack-off or having sex with condoms! Of course their first generation of mixed children wouldn&#8217;t be as smart and rich as if they had children with white women, but eventually the copies of the genes will eventually meet again in single individuals, adding up intelligence. Eventually, only black skin and maybe other harmless features of african populations would remain. </p>
<p>The sperm donation of gifted individuals could bring to Africa such a development rate unseen in the whole history, as usually the natural rate of substitution of genes is far more slow than what would be possible with sperm donation (and viral causes for development don&#8217;t last much - probably dumbness viruses have some intrinsic advantage over intelligence viruses in the same niche, and the effect is similar to that of the decreasing virullency of epidemics with time). It&#8217;s way much cheaper than any sort of aid with infrastructure and other non-genetic meaningless things like education, and far more effective, longlasting than things like education, as the genes are passed on to the next generation, but the education goes down to zero again.</p>
<p>But that solution has the potential problem I foresaw earlier, multiplied ten-fold by the quality of the genes of theses white-gene donors I imagined. If Germany almost alone did all that harm even after a recession following the First War (a black dumbness virus?), the menace of a whole continent with the genes for such richness and evil is something that the world hasn&#8217;t yet seen and probably no one is capable of imagining. Such evil and intelligence combined isn&#8217;t present in anyone&#8217;s genes, so it&#8217;s literally beyond the abilities of any present day human being to grasp what could really mean. All that we can know is that it would be the worst menace whit&#8211; humankind ever faced, and possible the one that could lead us all to extinction.</p>
<p>So that isn&#8217;t going to be the sort of Final Solution we&#8217;d want&#8230; as we&#8217;re civilized, we can&#8217;t really suggest something like the other Final Solution - the one that was brought by the combination of black cruelty and white intelligence genes. We need something more human. The terminator-like technology to induce biological speciation would be the best solution, I think. To kill all black people would be unethical, just like extincting some monkey species. Perhaps if we let them alone in Africa, they would eventually biologically evolve in something like white people, but passing by the natural stages of intelligence development, without the dangerous simultaneity of evil and intelligence that haunts us with nonsegregation and miscegeneation.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>Yeah, I know, Godwin&#8217;s law and all that. But I think it was funny anyway. Don&#8217;t take it too seriously. I think that it&#8217;s perfectly possible that some people consider other races genetically/inherently inferior in some abilities but at the same time aren&#8217;t nazioids. Somewhat like &#8220;biological egalitarians&#8221; (or something that sounds less strawmanesque) often acknowledge that there are real &#8220;proximal&#8221; differencies, but that these don&#8217;t imply in ultimate genetic causations or less rights for these people or anything. I don&#8217;t know in which place most &#8220;racial &#8216;realist&#8217;&#8221; people stand, anyway.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>I recall one of the silliest &#8220;arguments&#8221; against the &#8220;skin deep&#8221; assertion was to show pictures of african albinos, showing that they don&#8217;t have exactly the same patterns of facial features of european people in general. As if &#8220;skin deep&#8221; was supposed to be taken so literally that we would not expect even differences that exist, say, between europeans themselves. Other argument I recall was someone in a prototype of sarcasm pointing that is odd that the epicanthic fold is a culturally determined trait.</p>
<p>I know that it is somewhat &#8220;ad hominem&#8221;, but come on, seems like that some people don&#8217;t spend much time seeing people in the real world and need these sort of picture to know that facial features do differ geographically.</p>
<p>Ironically it&#8217;s somewhat akin to showing a picture of the bush of Socrates to promote afrocentrism.</p>
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		<title>By: Dresidian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dresidian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 17:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I find this study rather strange- did they ever go into any real detail regarding his geneaology and ancestry? And what's the deal with listing those disease frequencies and genetic disorders for him? Although these vary profoundly by ethnic group, these also vary just as much as within them. Not to mention these all have varying heritabilities, and flucuate constantly- how can they pinpoint such things to all of africa?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I find this study rather strange- did they ever go into any real detail regarding his geneaology and ancestry? And what&#8217;s the deal with listing those disease frequencies and genetic disorders for him? Although these vary profoundly by ethnic group, these also vary just as much as within them. Not to mention these all have varying heritabilities, and flucuate constantly- how can they pinpoint such things to all of africa?</p>
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		<title>By: brazilian meteor</title>
		<link>http://www.eyeondna.com/2007/11/11/dna-race-and-intelligence-in-the-new-york-times/#comment-27679</link>
		<dc:creator>brazilian meteor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 06:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I clearly remember a recent report from my hometown university that concluded racism could influence negatively the scores of coloured students. It makes a lot of sense to me and you bet I'm going after that son of a bitch. Maybe you guys won't take it seriously, since the report was held by a bunch of 'dumb brazilians', but I sincerely intend to improve the debate here.
one thing most of you seem to have missed, as mr saletan stated lately: these results we are leaning over were found by the pioneer fund, a well-known racist organization. how reliable is a racial study conducted on a ground like that? the user renata mcgriff - clearly and notoriously a black woman - tried to open eyes for that issue before, but no one in this forum really cared. are you guys wallowing into the puddle that the pioneer fund created already? are we starting to overlook the blackman's opinion because we think he is too dumb to be right?

sorry 'bout my lame english, btw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I clearly remember a recent report from my hometown university that concluded racism could influence negatively the scores of coloured students. It makes a lot of sense to me and you bet I&#8217;m going after that son of a bitch. Maybe you guys won&#8217;t take it seriously, since the report was held by a bunch of &#8216;dumb brazilians&#8217;, but I sincerely intend to improve the debate here.<br />
one thing most of you seem to have missed, as mr saletan stated lately: these results we are leaning over were found by the pioneer fund, a well-known racist organization. how reliable is a racial study conducted on a ground like that? the user renata mcgriff - clearly and notoriously a black woman - tried to open eyes for that issue before, but no one in this forum really cared. are you guys wallowing into the puddle that the pioneer fund created already? are we starting to overlook the blackman&#8217;s opinion because we think he is too dumb to be right?</p>
<p>sorry &#8217;bout my lame english, btw.</p>
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		<title>By: Ezrah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ezrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DNA pioneer James Watson is blacker than he thought

JAMES WATSON, the DNA pioneer who claimed Africans are less intelligent than whites, has been found to have 16 times more genes of black origin than the average white European. 

An analysis of his genome shows that 16% of his genes are likely to have come from a black ancestor of African descent. By contrast, most people of European descent would have no more than 1%. 

The study was made possible when he allowed his genome - the map of all his genes - to be published on the internet in the interests of science. 

â€œThis level is what you would expect in someone who had a great-grandparent who was African,â€ said Kari Stefansson of deCODE Genetics, whose company carried out the analysis. â€œIt was very surprising to get this result for Jim.â€ 

Watson won the Nobel prize, with Francis Crick and Maurice Wilkins, after working out the structure of DNA in 1953. However, he provoked an outcry earlier this year when he suggested black people were genetically less intelligent than whites. 

This weekend his critics savoured the wry twist of fate. Sir John Sulston, the Nobel laureate who helped lead the consortium that decoded the human genome, said the discovery was ironic in view of Watsonâ€™s opinions on race. â€œI never did agree with Watsonâ€™s remarks,â€ he said. â€œWe do not understand enough about intelligence to generalise about race.â€ 

The backlash against Watson forced him to step down as chancellor of Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory, New York state, after 39 years at the helm. He had said he was â€œinherently gloomy about the prospects for Africaâ€ because â€œall our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours - whereas all the testing says not reallyâ€. 

The analysis by deCODE Genetics, an Icelandic company, also shows a further 9% of Watsonâ€™s genes are likely to have come from an ancestor of Asian descent. Watson was not available for comment. 

James Watson: genetic risk to diseases compared with other people of European ancestry

- Age-related macular degeneration (blindness) - 20% less than average 

- Asthma - 31% less than average 

- Breast cancer - 1.45 times greater than average 

- Coeliac disease - 66% less than average 

- Colon (bowel) cancer - 16% greater than average 

- Glaucoma - 1.42 rimes greater than average 

- Inflammatory bowel disease - 31% less than average 

- Multiple sclerosis - 29% greater than average 

- Heart attack - 33% less than average 

- Obesity - 5% greater than average 

- Prostate cancer - 1.02 times greater than average 

- Psoriasis - 31% less than average 

- Restless leg - 29% less than average 

- Rheumatoid arthritis - 20% greater than average 

- Type 1 diabetes - 65% less than average 

- Type 2 diabetes - 33% greater than average 

Results are calculated by comparing one person's genetic sequence to the sequences of other participants in studies published in world literature on genetic risk for disease 

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article3022190.ece</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DNA pioneer James Watson is blacker than he thought</p>
<p>JAMES WATSON, the DNA pioneer who claimed Africans are less intelligent than whites, has been found to have 16 times more genes of black origin than the average white European. </p>
<p>An analysis of his genome shows that 16% of his genes are likely to have come from a black ancestor of African descent. By contrast, most people of European descent would have no more than 1%. </p>
<p>The study was made possible when he allowed his genome - the map of all his genes - to be published on the internet in the interests of science. </p>
<p>â€œThis level is what you would expect in someone who had a great-grandparent who was African,â€ said Kari Stefansson of deCODE Genetics, whose company carried out the analysis. â€œIt was very surprising to get this result for Jim.â€ </p>
<p>Watson won the Nobel prize, with Francis Crick and Maurice Wilkins, after working out the structure of DNA in 1953. However, he provoked an outcry earlier this year when he suggested black people were genetically less intelligent than whites. </p>
<p>This weekend his critics savoured the wry twist of fate. Sir John Sulston, the Nobel laureate who helped lead the consortium that decoded the human genome, said the discovery was ironic in view of Watsonâ€™s opinions on race. â€œI never did agree with Watsonâ€™s remarks,â€ he said. â€œWe do not understand enough about intelligence to generalise about race.â€ </p>
<p>The backlash against Watson forced him to step down as chancellor of Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory, New York state, after 39 years at the helm. He had said he was â€œinherently gloomy about the prospects for Africaâ€ because â€œall our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours - whereas all the testing says not reallyâ€. </p>
<p>The analysis by deCODE Genetics, an Icelandic company, also shows a further 9% of Watsonâ€™s genes are likely to have come from an ancestor of Asian descent. Watson was not available for comment. </p>
<p>James Watson: genetic risk to diseases compared with other people of European ancestry</p>
<p>- Age-related macular degeneration (blindness) - 20% less than average </p>
<p>- Asthma - 31% less than average </p>
<p>- Breast cancer - 1.45 times greater than average </p>
<p>- Coeliac disease - 66% less than average </p>
<p>- Colon (bowel) cancer - 16% greater than average </p>
<p>- Glaucoma - 1.42 rimes greater than average </p>
<p>- Inflammatory bowel disease - 31% less than average </p>
<p>- Multiple sclerosis - 29% greater than average </p>
<p>- Heart attack - 33% less than average </p>
<p>- Obesity - 5% greater than average </p>
<p>- Prostate cancer - 1.02 times greater than average </p>
<p>- Psoriasis - 31% less than average </p>
<p>- Restless leg - 29% less than average </p>
<p>- Rheumatoid arthritis - 20% greater than average </p>
<p>- Type 1 diabetes - 65% less than average </p>
<p>- Type 2 diabetes - 33% greater than average </p>
<p>Results are calculated by comparing one person&#8217;s genetic sequence to the sequences of other participants in studies published in world literature on genetic risk for disease </p>
<p><a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article3022190.ece" >http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article3022190.ece</a></p>
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		<title>By: Hsien-Hsien Lei, PhD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hsien-Hsien Lei, PhD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those involved in this discussion, you may be interested in this week's New Scientist article - &lt;a href="http://www.newscientist.com/channel/being-human/mg19626324.100-intelligence-genes-reveal-their-complexity.html;jsessionid=CCPLOMMFKPME"&gt;Intelligence genes' reveal their complexity&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;i&gt;The research, led by Robert Plomin of the Institute of Psychiatry in London, identified six genes that were strongly associated with high or low intelligence, but even the most powerful of these accounted for just 0.4 per cent of the variation in intelligence between individuals. The six together accounted for about 1 per cent of the variation in intelligence. Dozens of previous studies on twins and adopted children have established that about half of the variation in intelligence is down to environment, but almost all of the genetic component has yet to be uncovered.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those involved in this discussion, you may be interested in this week&#8217;s New Scientist article - <a href="http://www.newscientist.com/channel/being-human/mg19626324.100-intelligence-genes-reveal-their-complexity.html;jsessionid=CCPLOMMFKPME">Intelligence genes&#8217; reveal their complexity</a>.</p>
<p><i>The research, led by Robert Plomin of the Institute of Psychiatry in London, identified six genes that were strongly associated with high or low intelligence, but even the most powerful of these accounted for just 0.4 per cent of the variation in intelligence between individuals. The six together accounted for about 1 per cent of the variation in intelligence. Dozens of previous studies on twins and adopted children have established that about half of the variation in intelligence is down to environment, but almost all of the genetic component has yet to be uncovered.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Ezrah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ezrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1.) Firstly, the so called I.Q test is not developed
enough to measure intelligence. e.g how do you measure the intelligence of an educated person and a non educated person using the same test. How do you measure artistic intelligence, right vs left brain intellectual functions, emotional intelligence, artistic intelligence, spiritual intelligence and physical intelligence.

2.) 'their' recent studies have concluded that human
achievements are not totally dependant on genes, i.e
we are not slaves to genes. Therefore intelligence or I.Q level is not a constant by can be improved, and can also be detered from developing due to:
a. poor diet
b. poor upbringing, parenting, environmental
stimulation
c. culture
Taking all this into consideration its obvious that
people at the bottom of social-economic structures
exist in environments not conducive for mental
development. Its that simple...if you live well and
eat well your mind and body will develop to their full capacity.
-do you think the brain size of a child drinking clean water will be the same as that of one without access to clean water and sanitation. How about the child without access to a library???
In conclusion this shows that "if" its true that black people's I.Q are lower it should follow to also conclude that the reason is because the oppression, poverty, and lack of investment in education, mental stimulation and training.

3.) Culture and Social engineering:

a. African Americans- Saletan's study said that African Americans I.Q is generally higher than continental African I.Q because many African Americans have European blood. This study is wrong because it failed to account for the fact that children of African immigrants in America generally perform better in school than both white and African Americans.
- The reason why immigrant African children do better in school than African American children is purely cultural. African immigrant parents demand more from their children than African American parents. Another point of interest is that in my observation the average intellectual performance of African American children has deteriorated in the recent years due to family breakdown and pop culture .
- The reason why Asian children do very well in school is also because of their culture and parental demands on the children...well, the study forgot to mention that Asian children also commit suicides at higher rates because of the pressure from parents.
- The reason why white children relatively do well in school is because the parents own and control
everything, the whites generally give their children a lot of freedom to express themselves and provide them with all they need,

Many traits amongst races are not DNA based but
cultural, however cultural traits eventually become
genetic if repeated.
Are I.Qs genetic and racial?:-
- African Americans perform better in sports and music than everyone else around the world. Is this genetic and racial? No, blacks in Brazil and Congo don't perform as well as blacks in America in sports, therefore there is a cultural and social base to it.
- Blacks in Kenya out-ran everyone else in the world
in the marathon, is this genetic and racial? No,
blacks in Ghana, Zimbabwe and America generally can't run the marathon

b.) Africans 
FACT - Poverty, social instability and cultural
stagnation are not good for brain &#38; physical growth
and intellectual development-in my opinion some cultural tendencies in Africa which dont promote intellectual development.


Right Brain vs Left Brain

The brain is divided into two major hemispheres, known as the left and right hemispheres of the brain. 
The left brain, in general, is characterized by most
western people (and some Asians), and handles,
sequential and linear processing/thought. The right
brain, in general, is characterized by most African
people (and some Asians) and handles synthesis and
the ability to see wholes. These two 'brains' do not
look at life in the same way.

Left Brain
- Logical
- Sequential
- Rational
- Analytical
- Objective
- Looks at parts

Right Brain
- Random
- Intuitive
- Holistic
- Synthesizing
- Subjective
- Looks at wholes

In general, schools tend to favor _left-brain modes of thinking_, while downplaying the right-brain ones.
Left-brain scholastic subjects focus on logical
thinking, analysis, and accuracy. Right-brained
subjects, on the other hand, focus on aesthetics,
feeling, and creativity.

- Many of the traits of 'intelligence' CAN be improved upon, these include adaptability to a new situation, cognitive capabilities, logical thinking, abstract thinking, originality, alertness, common-sense, productiveness and creativity.

- IQ test, used to 'validate' the 'war against
Blacks', are based on left brain qualities and
virtually ignore right brain qualities.

- There are certain capabilities which IQ tests can't measure. They include creativity, non-academic
talents, musical capability, manual dexterity,
interpersonal skills etc.

- Psychologists have discovered that mood, anxiety,
stress, environment, education, culture and abode may influence IQ test rating variably.

- [Intelligence] can be developed to the fullest
possible expression with right information, practice
and experience. And IQ test scores can only identify
your current level of mental alertness, not your
constant intelligence factor.

- IQ tests measure, for the most part, what a person
has learned, not what he or she is capable of doing in the future (his potential).

- IQ tests are not very reliable. The scores may vary as much as 15 points from one test to another, while emotional tension, anxiety, and unfamiliarity with the testing process can greatly affect test performance.

'Intelligence' is not static and one way
'intelligence' can be improved is by altering ones
brainwaves

- 'Intelligence' can be improved simply by retraining a person's brain by using neurofeedback:

- Brain waves can be enhanced to create conditions for optimum learning, thinking, studying

- Dr. Siegfried Othmer says that â€œbrainwave training
clearly facilitates the organization of mental
functioning so that the child can exhibit his native
intelligence. The results are so striking that they
must compel us to revisit the whole issue of whom we
are calling mentally retarded.â€

- '...Significant post-test increases in IQ scores
were observed in 10 EEG-responsive subject...'

- Psychologoist have identified multiple
'intelligenses' and testing shows that no student was found to be in the top five on every measure.

* Linguistic intelligence (â€œword smartâ€)
* Logical-mathematical intelligence
(â€œnumber/reasoning smartâ€)
* Spatial intelligence (â€œpicture smartâ€)
* Bodily-kinesthetic intelligence (â€œbody smartâ€)
* Musical intelligence (â€œmusic smartâ€)
* Interpersonal intelligence (â€œpeople smartâ€)
* Intrapersonal intelligence (â€œself smartâ€)
* Naturalist intelligence (â€œnature smartâ€)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.) Firstly, the so called I.Q test is not developed<br />
enough to measure intelligence. e.g how do you measure the intelligence of an educated person and a non educated person using the same test. How do you measure artistic intelligence, right vs left brain intellectual functions, emotional intelligence, artistic intelligence, spiritual intelligence and physical intelligence.</p>
<p>2.) &#8216;their&#8217; recent studies have concluded that human<br />
achievements are not totally dependant on genes, i.e<br />
we are not slaves to genes. Therefore intelligence or I.Q level is not a constant by can be improved, and can also be detered from developing due to:<br />
a. poor diet<br />
b. poor upbringing, parenting, environmental<br />
stimulation<br />
c. culture<br />
Taking all this into consideration its obvious that<br />
people at the bottom of social-economic structures<br />
exist in environments not conducive for mental<br />
development. Its that simple&#8230;if you live well and<br />
eat well your mind and body will develop to their full capacity.<br />
-do you think the brain size of a child drinking clean water will be the same as that of one without access to clean water and sanitation. How about the child without access to a library???<br />
In conclusion this shows that &#8220;if&#8221; its true that black people&#8217;s I.Q are lower it should follow to also conclude that the reason is because the oppression, poverty, and lack of investment in education, mental stimulation and training.</p>
<p>3.) Culture and Social engineering:</p>
<p>a. African Americans- Saletan&#8217;s study said that African Americans I.Q is generally higher than continental African I.Q because many African Americans have European blood. This study is wrong because it failed to account for the fact that children of African immigrants in America generally perform better in school than both white and African Americans.<br />
- The reason why immigrant African children do better in school than African American children is purely cultural. African immigrant parents demand more from their children than African American parents. Another point of interest is that in my observation the average intellectual performance of African American children has deteriorated in the recent years due to family breakdown and pop culture .<br />
- The reason why Asian children do very well in school is also because of their culture and parental demands on the children&#8230;well, the study forgot to mention that Asian children also commit suicides at higher rates because of the pressure from parents.<br />
- The reason why white children relatively do well in school is because the parents own and control<br />
everything, the whites generally give their children a lot of freedom to express themselves and provide them with all they need,</p>
<p>Many traits amongst races are not DNA based but<br />
cultural, however cultural traits eventually become<br />
genetic if repeated.<br />
Are I.Qs genetic and racial?:-<br />
- African Americans perform better in sports and music than everyone else around the world. Is this genetic and racial? No, blacks in Brazil and Congo don&#8217;t perform as well as blacks in America in sports, therefore there is a cultural and social base to it.<br />
- Blacks in Kenya out-ran everyone else in the world<br />
in the marathon, is this genetic and racial? No,<br />
blacks in Ghana, Zimbabwe and America generally can&#8217;t run the marathon</p>
<p>b.) Africans<br />
FACT - Poverty, social instability and cultural<br />
stagnation are not good for brain &amp; physical growth<br />
and intellectual development-in my opinion some cultural tendencies in Africa which dont promote intellectual development.</p>
<p>Right Brain vs Left Brain</p>
<p>The brain is divided into two major hemispheres, known as the left and right hemispheres of the brain.<br />
The left brain, in general, is characterized by most<br />
western people (and some Asians), and handles,<br />
sequential and linear processing/thought. The right<br />
brain, in general, is characterized by most African<br />
people (and some Asians) and handles synthesis and<br />
the ability to see wholes. These two &#8216;brains&#8217; do not<br />
look at life in the same way.</p>
<p>Left Brain<br />
- Logical<br />
- Sequential<br />
- Rational<br />
- Analytical<br />
- Objective<br />
- Looks at parts</p>
<p>Right Brain<br />
- Random<br />
- Intuitive<br />
- Holistic<br />
- Synthesizing<br />
- Subjective<br />
- Looks at wholes</p>
<p>In general, schools tend to favor _left-brain modes of thinking_, while downplaying the right-brain ones.<br />
Left-brain scholastic subjects focus on logical<br />
thinking, analysis, and accuracy. Right-brained<br />
subjects, on the other hand, focus on aesthetics,<br />
feeling, and creativity.</p>
<p>- Many of the traits of &#8216;intelligence&#8217; CAN be improved upon, these include adaptability to a new situation, cognitive capabilities, logical thinking, abstract thinking, originality, alertness, common-sense, productiveness and creativity.</p>
<p>- IQ test, used to &#8216;validate&#8217; the &#8216;war against<br />
Blacks&#8217;, are based on left brain qualities and<br />
virtually ignore right brain qualities.</p>
<p>- There are certain capabilities which IQ tests can&#8217;t measure. They include creativity, non-academic<br />
talents, musical capability, manual dexterity,<br />
interpersonal skills etc.</p>
<p>- Psychologists have discovered that mood, anxiety,<br />
stress, environment, education, culture and abode may influence IQ test rating variably.</p>
<p>- [Intelligence] can be developed to the fullest<br />
possible expression with right information, practice<br />
and experience. And IQ test scores can only identify<br />
your current level of mental alertness, not your<br />
constant intelligence factor.</p>
<p>- IQ tests measure, for the most part, what a person<br />
has learned, not what he or she is capable of doing in the future (his potential).</p>
<p>- IQ tests are not very reliable. The scores may vary as much as 15 points from one test to another, while emotional tension, anxiety, and unfamiliarity with the testing process can greatly affect test performance.</p>
<p>&#8216;Intelligence&#8217; is not static and one way<br />
&#8216;intelligence&#8217; can be improved is by altering ones<br />
brainwaves</p>
<p>- &#8216;Intelligence&#8217; can be improved simply by retraining a person&#8217;s brain by using neurofeedback:</p>
<p>- Brain waves can be enhanced to create conditions for optimum learning, thinking, studying</p>
<p>- Dr. Siegfried Othmer says that â€œbrainwave training<br />
clearly facilitates the organization of mental<br />
functioning so that the child can exhibit his native<br />
intelligence. The results are so striking that they<br />
must compel us to revisit the whole issue of whom we<br />
are calling mentally retarded.â€</p>
<p>- &#8216;&#8230;Significant post-test increases in IQ scores<br />
were observed in 10 EEG-responsive subject&#8230;&#8217;</p>
<p>- Psychologoist have identified multiple<br />
&#8216;intelligenses&#8217; and testing shows that no student was found to be in the top five on every measure.</p>
<p>* Linguistic intelligence (â€œword smartâ€)<br />
* Logical-mathematical intelligence<br />
(â€œnumber/reasoning smartâ€)<br />
* Spatial intelligence (â€œpicture smartâ€)<br />
* Bodily-kinesthetic intelligence (â€œbody smartâ€)<br />
* Musical intelligence (â€œmusic smartâ€)<br />
* Interpersonal intelligence (â€œpeople smartâ€)<br />
* Intrapersonal intelligence (â€œself smartâ€)<br />
* Naturalist intelligence (â€œnature smartâ€)</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Black immigrants do better than Whites &#38; Asians

March 19, 2007 
&lt;a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/03/black_immigrants_an_invisible.html"&gt;Black Immigrants, An Invisible 'Model Minority' &lt;/a&gt;
By Clarence Page 

WASHINGTON-Do African immigrants make the smartest 
Americans? The question may sound outlandish, but if you were judging by statistics alone, you could find plenty of evidence to back it up. 

In a side-by-side comparison of 2000 census data by 
sociologist John R. Logan at the Mumford Center, State University of New York at Albany, black immigrants from Africa average the highest educational attainment of any population group in the country, including whites and Asians. 

&lt;em&gt;[Comment edited for brevity and copyright considerations]&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Black immigrants do better than Whites &amp; Asians</p>
<p>March 19, 2007<br />
<a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/03/black_immigrants_an_invisible.html">Black Immigrants, An Invisible &#8216;Model Minority&#8217; </a><br />
By Clarence Page </p>
<p>WASHINGTON-Do African immigrants make the smartest<br />
Americans? The question may sound outlandish, but if you were judging by statistics alone, you could find plenty of evidence to back it up. </p>
<p>In a side-by-side comparison of 2000 census data by<br />
sociologist John R. Logan at the Mumford Center, State University of New York at Albany, black immigrants from Africa average the highest educational attainment of any population group in the country, including whites and Asians. </p>
<p><em>[Comment edited for brevity and copyright considerations]</em></p>
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