Comments on: How to Fake a DNA Test http://www.eyeondna.com/2008/04/13/how-to-fake-a-dna-test/ How will it change your life? Tue, 07 Oct 2008 03:14:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Hsien-Hsien Lei, PhD http://www.eyeondna.com/2008/04/13/how-to-fake-a-dna-test/#comment-56302 Hsien-Hsien Lei, PhD Mon, 14 Apr 2008 08:06:07 +0000 http://www.eyeondna.com/2008/04/13/how-to-fake-a-dna-test/#comment-56302 Thanks, Alan! Nice to see you here. :) Thanks, Alan! Nice to see you here. :)

]]> By: Alan Bajandas http://www.eyeondna.com/2008/04/13/how-to-fake-a-dna-test/#comment-56301 Alan Bajandas Mon, 14 Apr 2008 07:05:20 +0000 http://www.eyeondna.com/2008/04/13/how-to-fake-a-dna-test/#comment-56301 Great post! Great post!

]]> By: StevenMurphy MD http://www.eyeondna.com/2008/04/13/how-to-fake-a-dna-test/#comment-56299 StevenMurphy MD Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:59:21 +0000 http://www.eyeondna.com/2008/04/13/how-to-fake-a-dna-test/#comment-56299 Hsien, Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. -Steve www.thegenesherpa.blogspot.com Hsien,
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
-Steve
http://www.thegenesherpa.blogspot.com

]]> By: Hsien-Hsien Lei, PhD http://www.eyeondna.com/2008/04/13/how-to-fake-a-dna-test/#comment-56295 Hsien-Hsien Lei, PhD Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:04:18 +0000 http://www.eyeondna.com/2008/04/13/how-to-fake-a-dna-test/#comment-56295 Clinton, I used to think that chain-of-custody DNA testing was as good as it can get but clearly, humans can be duped at any step along the way. Thanks for the link. I remember reading about the <a href="http://www.thetechherald.com/article.php/200814/581/CCC-is-at-it-again-%E2%80%93-hands-out-copies-of-German-Interior-Minister-s-fingerprint">stolen fingerprints</a>. Nuts. <blockquote>The Chaos Computer Club (CCC), has included a piece of thin rubber film that contains the fingerprint of the German Minister of Interior, Wolfgang Schäuble, in their recent issue of Datenschleuder. </blockquote> Clinton, I used to think that chain-of-custody DNA testing was as good as it can get but clearly, humans can be duped at any step along the way. Thanks for the link. I remember reading about the stolen fingerprints. Nuts.

The Chaos Computer Club (CCC), has included a piece of thin rubber film that contains the fingerprint of the German Minister of Interior, Wolfgang Schäuble, in their recent issue of Datenschleuder.

]]> By: Hsien-Hsien Lei, PhD http://www.eyeondna.com/2008/04/13/how-to-fake-a-dna-test/#comment-56294 Hsien-Hsien Lei, PhD Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:58:43 +0000 http://www.eyeondna.com/2008/04/13/how-to-fake-a-dna-test/#comment-56294 Steve, Only without the beautiful people.... Steve, Only without the beautiful people….

]]> By: Clinton Torres http://www.eyeondna.com/2008/04/13/how-to-fake-a-dna-test/#comment-56293 Clinton Torres Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:31:43 +0000 http://www.eyeondna.com/2008/04/13/how-to-fake-a-dna-test/#comment-56293 Security specialist Bruce Schneier recently wrote about the stolen fingerprints of a German Minister, where he referred back to a Biometrics article from 10 years ago: http://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-9808.html#biometrics The last paragraph is a perfect summary. Basically, biometrics are not secrets, and are only useful when there is a trusted path from reader to the verifier. In all except the Granada saliva case, there is a clear breakdown of the trust path between the reader and the verifier. Security specialist Bruce Schneier recently wrote about the stolen fingerprints of a German Minister, where he referred back to a Biometrics article from 10 years ago:
http://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-9808.html#biometrics

The last paragraph is a perfect summary. Basically, biometrics are not secrets, and are only useful when there is a trusted path from reader to the verifier.

In all except the Granada saliva case, there is a clear breakdown of the trust path between the reader and the verifier.

]]> By: StevenMurphy MD http://www.eyeondna.com/2008/04/13/how-to-fake-a-dna-test/#comment-56292 StevenMurphy MD Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:03:47 +0000 http://www.eyeondna.com/2008/04/13/how-to-fake-a-dna-test/#comment-56292 Hsien, Sounds more and more like Gattaca every day. -Steve www.thegenesherpa.blogspot.com Hsien,
Sounds more and more like Gattaca every day.
-Steve
http://www.thegenesherpa.blogspot.com

]]> By: Hsien-Hsien Lei, PhD http://www.eyeondna.com/2008/04/13/how-to-fake-a-dna-test/#comment-56291 Hsien-Hsien Lei, PhD Sun, 13 Apr 2008 15:54:01 +0000 http://www.eyeondna.com/2008/04/13/how-to-fake-a-dna-test/#comment-56291 Absolutely, Guy. Totally agree with you. Thanks for the comments! Absolutely, Guy. Totally agree with you. Thanks for the comments!

]]> By: Guy Fogel http://www.eyeondna.com/2008/04/13/how-to-fake-a-dna-test/#comment-56290 Guy Fogel Sun, 13 Apr 2008 15:42:29 +0000 http://www.eyeondna.com/2008/04/13/how-to-fake-a-dna-test/#comment-56290 I realized the Meehan example is not like a person falsifying his own DNA. My point is not to have 100% certainty in DNA results reported by humans, because human error deliberate or accidental can give false information. I realized the Meehan example is not like a person falsifying his own DNA. My point is not to have 100% certainty in DNA results reported by humans, because human error deliberate or accidental can give false information.

]]> By: Hsien-Hsien Lei, PhD http://www.eyeondna.com/2008/04/13/how-to-fake-a-dna-test/#comment-56289 Hsien-Hsien Lei, PhD Sun, 13 Apr 2008 14:36:56 +0000 http://www.eyeondna.com/2008/04/13/how-to-fake-a-dna-test/#comment-56289 Great example, Guy. Human error, deliberate or accidental, plays a role even when it's something that should be definitive like DNA tests. Great example, Guy. Human error, deliberate or accidental, plays a role even when it’s something that should be definitive like DNA tests.

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